alt.war.civil.usa

On Feb 15, 10:54=A0pm, Brooks Simpson wrote:
> On Feb 15, 6:34=A0am, Hugh Lawson wrote:
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> > "Bert" writes:
> > > "Hugh Lawson" wrote in message
> > >news:@...
> > > =A0 And it was a cause of the war.
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> > > Actually, upon further reflection, never mind. To paraphrase David Bri=
nkley,
> > > trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to ask a neighbor =
about
> > > the hose you loaned him, and having him reply, "What hose, I gave it t=
o you
> > > last week, and it had a hole in it anyway." Have yourself a nice life
> > > believing in your lost cause myths. May they comfort you.
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> > Ray talks about 20th century wars, and Bert tells stories about fire
> > hoses.
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> > What they don't do is prove the contrary of this statement:
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> > The North wanted to destroy the CSA, and this desire was a cause of the
> > war.
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> I think Bert and Ray would agree that the United States during the
> Lincoln administration was not willing to recognize the legitmacy of
> secession; moreover, Lincoln's aim was to preserve the Union, which
> required ending the Confederate experiment in independence.
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> Had the US been willing to accept CSA independence, there may well
> have been no war, absent subsequent CSA aggression or future
> conflicts. =A0Moreover, one could say that had Lincoln simply accepted
> the loss of Fort Sumter on April 13, 1861, there might well have been
> no war.
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> So Hugh's left with pointing out the obvious, but does so in typically
> misleading fashion. =A0He might read Lincoln's second inaugural for a
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I read it, so what? Politicans say things they don't really mean all
the time. That is their stock and trade. If Lincoln could not have
found a way for the CSA to fire on Ft. Sumter, he would have come up
with some other scheme so that he would cover himself and look like
the victim, and the CSA bad, and attacked it anyway. He was going to
force them back into the Union, and that was just that.

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Ken Hogan