Group: alt.war.civil.usa
From: scribe7716
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: New Book on Union War Crimes

On Aug 30, 7:13?am, "HWAYNE" wrote:
> I know this is diffficult for both you and the Fool. But, yes the law of
> the invader when it comes to property owned by the citizens of the invading
> State can and does permit the recovery of stolen or lost property. An
> invading force is not subject to the law of the invaded State. If you are
> as confused as the Fool seems to be, then consider WWII and the occupation
> of Germany.
>
> Having stated the rule, I will leave it to you and the Fool to accept it or
> challenge it with examples from military history.

Once again, HWayne, you have missed (avoided/evaded) the point.
Blacks in Pennsylvania were living as free men and the AoNVa made them
slaves.
>
> "scribe7716" wrote in message
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> news: @ ...
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> [deleted, second tier Simpsonia]

Not Simpsonia but Creighton and Trudeau, so let's bring it back and
give you another chance to take a look..

"Margaret Creighton's 'Living on the Fault Line: African American
Civilians and the Gettysburg Campaign' is one of the most compelling
articles in the collection [_The War Was You and Me, Ed. Joan E.
Cashin_]. Creighton also draws out the story of free blacks in
Gettysburg and in nearby occupied towns and villages of the North. As
the news of the advancing Confederates spread, the African American
population felt an additional fear to that experienced by whites:
Confederates could and did round up and remand into slavery all
African Americans they could find, including the long-free, women,
and
children. A young white mother recorded in her diary the anguish of
another mother, who pled with her captors for the chance to see her
children just once more, 'but all the sympathy she received from him
was a rough "March Along.'" Anguished and frightened African
Americans hid under porches, in attics and cellars, one in a church
belfry."

Noah Trudeau, _Gettysburg A Testing Of Courage_, "The experience of
Gettysburg's were typical of those suffered by the thousands of
African Americans who lived in the path of Lee's advance. Although
no
official orders were ever issued directing a general roundup of black
civilians encountered in Pennsylvania, such actions were carried out
with an openness and on a scale that suggest, at the very least,
tacit knowledge at the highest command levels.


"A soldier-correspondent who went by the initials ., riding with
Jenkin's command {Confederate Brig. Gen. Albert G. Jenkins], reported
to the _Richmond Enquirer_ that the rebel troopers had approptiated
'many contrabands' and fine horses [note that equivalency]. An
individual named William Brown was said by Georgia soldier Alfred
Zachary to have been "arrested... as a contraband supposed to be a
slave.' Perhaps most chilling were the words penned on June 28 by a
Confederate officer named William S. Christian: "We took a lot of
negroes yesterday... I was offered my choice, but as I could not get
them back home I woild not take them. In fact, my humanity revolted
at taking the poor devils from their homes."